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I was thinking where southcliff would be located and what happened to the hero of southcliff. Southcliff was supposedly very near to Bowerstone. Yet because of westcliff being near the coast already to the southern end of bowerstone, southcliff would have to be more directly south of bowerstone (which could make bowerstone northcliff, hehe). anyway, the only thing south of bowerstone would be bandit coast. Also southcliff is said to have a port, meaning it has somesort of shore, coast. Again, bandit coast. Bowerlake can't be involved because that would have to be eastcliff.

Now in "a hero's tale" the hero gets crowned king right? and then there were three options, become a good ruler, an evil one, or none at all. but whatever the choice, eventually the hero of southcliff would be the ancestor of 'sparrow' and rose.

So either, southcliff hero is a good king, his kingdom gets attacked and he has to leave the crown - Southcliff graduatly turns banditcoast

Southcliff hero is an evil king, his kingdom falls in despair and he has to leave the crown - idem

or southcliff hero never became king, leaving southcliff vulnerable to corruption and bandits. - idem

if any of this would happen, I'm almost certain the hero of southcliff would be a grandfather instead of a father. 14:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Melchior

Or perhaps Southcliff is still there, we just haven't been allowed to go to it. --Enodoc(Talk) (User Space) 16:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
What, are you serious? if its anywhere near bowerstone you'd have to come near it in fable2. It doesnt add up, plus, where'd you say it is located? 19:43, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Melchior
lol yes I'm serious. But noone ever said that Southcliff was close to Bowerstone. All that was said is Our story begins in a small village just a stone's throw away from Bowerstone... and later ...until one day he arrived at a quiet village by the sea. There is no evidence to suggest that these villages are the same place, so Southcliff could be anywhere. I would personally say that it is either between the Bandit Coast and Westcliff or between Brightwood and the Bandit Coast. Remember that there's 64 miles between the Coast and Westcliff and 96 between the Coast and Brightwood. Southcliff could easily be within one of these areas. --Enodoc(Talk) (User Space) 22:00, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

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